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		<title>By: GUIDOFOIANINI</title>
		<link>http://mpettis.com/2008/12/can-parochial-concerns-undermine-the-global-adjustment-it-has-before/comment-page-1/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>GUIDOFOIANINI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nations are suffering the disintegration of governments due to the lack of understanding of their meaning in a global society.
Mankind’s evolution has set the parameters that rule the governments they deserve, but sometimes not in phase with the times.
The industrial and technological evolution has overtaken mankind leaving it remnants of the benefits and most of the responsibilities.
Native man is struggling to survive against the immense disadvantage he has, due to an unfair valuation of his energy output versus the competing artificial energy production.
To equalize this disparity, I suggest that government’s income be only from taxes on energy consumption, massive and controllable fuel and electricity. This permits to abolish all other taxes as to free man from government and permit him to thrive from a primitive native position to a modern intellectually complex being.
This would create a free market and a mirror image free government,  that symbiotically could indefinitely coexist.
*****
End of economy, beginning of energonomy. No longer will you be retributed by a sweatless salary but by one that shows the sweat produced by you at the job.			Simply you cannot be a job bystander, you must put your soul and will to your lovely mistress, your job, otherwise someone else, nearby or overseas will.  					End of currencies with economicist’s values, Dollars, Euros, Francs, Marks, etc.-, beginning of Bioenergo and Artenergo, human and artificial energy values, respectively, and regulated by Energos, a ratio of these energies.	
Energos = Bioenergo / 	Artenergo
	Your activity will be measured in Bioenergos and Artenergos and paid in each country’s certificate. 												 An Energo ratio will be calculated for each activity and product, and for the business interchange ratio between nations. Bioenergo will the value of human work units and Artenergo will be the values of artificial energy.  Developed nations will generate lower index values and underdeveloped nation’s higher Energo values. This will expose the disparity between them as to promote politics attenuating these differences, protecting the weaker from the stronger, as to equalize all people’s wellbeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nations are suffering the disintegration of governments due to the lack of understanding of their meaning in a global society.<br />
Mankind’s evolution has set the parameters that rule the governments they deserve, but sometimes not in phase with the times.<br />
The industrial and technological evolution has overtaken mankind leaving it remnants of the benefits and most of the responsibilities.<br />
Native man is struggling to survive against the immense disadvantage he has, due to an unfair valuation of his energy output versus the competing artificial energy production.<br />
To equalize this disparity, I suggest that government’s income be only from taxes on energy consumption, massive and controllable fuel and electricity. This permits to abolish all other taxes as to free man from government and permit him to thrive from a primitive native position to a modern intellectually complex being.<br />
This would create a free market and a mirror image free government,  that symbiotically could indefinitely coexist.<br />
*****<br />
End of economy, beginning of energonomy. No longer will you be retributed by a sweatless salary but by one that shows the sweat produced by you at the job.			Simply you cannot be a job bystander, you must put your soul and will to your lovely mistress, your job, otherwise someone else, nearby or overseas will.  					End of currencies with economicist’s values, Dollars, Euros, Francs, Marks, etc.-, beginning of Bioenergo and Artenergo, human and artificial energy values, respectively, and regulated by Energos, a ratio of these energies.<br />
Energos = Bioenergo / 	Artenergo<br />
	Your activity will be measured in Bioenergos and Artenergos and paid in each country’s certificate. 												 An Energo ratio will be calculated for each activity and product, and for the business interchange ratio between nations. Bioenergo will the value of human work units and Artenergo will be the values of artificial energy.  Developed nations will generate lower index values and underdeveloped nation’s higher Energo values. This will expose the disparity between them as to promote politics attenuating these differences, protecting the weaker from the stronger, as to equalize all people’s wellbeing.</p>
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		<title>By: TradingSpark</title>
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		<dc:creator>TradingSpark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding unemployment and the &#039;mob&#039; of fresh graduates coming on to the market ... this below from the China Daily, Jan 8:

College graduates who take jobs in central or western China will be entitled to a full refund of their tuition fees, the State Council said Wednesday.

The refunds will be paid to all graduates who find employment in towns and villages in central and western China, or in other remote areas of the country, it said.

Those who join the army will also be entitled to the payments, it said.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-01/08/content_7376464.htm

Its certainly an idea that&#039;s a lot better than straight out conscription.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding unemployment and the &#8216;mob&#8217; of fresh graduates coming on to the market &#8230; this below from the China Daily, Jan 8:</p>
<p>College graduates who take jobs in central or western China will be entitled to a full refund of their tuition fees, the State Council said Wednesday.</p>
<p>The refunds will be paid to all graduates who find employment in towns and villages in central and western China, or in other remote areas of the country, it said.</p>
<p>Those who join the army will also be entitled to the payments, it said.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-01/08/content_7376464.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-01/08/content_7376464.htm</a></p>
<p>Its certainly an idea that&#8217;s a lot better than straight out conscription.</p>
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		<title>By: seatrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>seatrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bomlat, nothing major will happen in China. Unlike Eastern Europe in the late 80s, the Chinese government has enough cash at hand to quell any labor related unrest.

I wonder why the Chinese government did not allocate enough funds in the stimulus package for the health care and education service sectors. Maybe it will be in the 2nd stimulus package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bomlat, nothing major will happen in China. Unlike Eastern Europe in the late 80s, the Chinese government has enough cash at hand to quell any labor related unrest.</p>
<p>I wonder why the Chinese government did not allocate enough funds in the stimulus package for the health care and education service sectors. Maybe it will be in the 2nd stimulus package.</p>
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		<title>By: mxq</title>
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		<dc:creator>mxq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chinese banks showing signs of rejecting any positive effects of recent fiscal stimulus.

http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/finance_investment/2008/12/25/125035.shtml

&quot;We won&#039;t approve loan to such railway projects. Financial support from local governments would only be a one-off thing. Whether the project can handle repayment in future depends on its operations,&quot; said a banking official...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chinese banks showing signs of rejecting any positive effects of recent fiscal stimulus.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/finance_investment/2008/12/25/125035.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/finance_investment/2008/12/25/125035.shtml</a></p>
<p>&#8220;We won&#8217;t approve loan to such railway projects. Financial support from local governments would only be a one-off thing. Whether the project can handle repayment in future depends on its operations,&#8221; said a banking official&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bomlat</title>
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		<dc:creator>bomlat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twofish.

I can not see how the Chinese government can buffering itself from a huge shock from the slowing of the investment/export.

The liquidity and the cash will go out on the window quickly, simply because the real cushion is the customer spending and the service sector.

I think that the future events in China will be very similar to the system change in eastern Europe.
This will be the breaking point.Eastern Europe was unable to do this kind of change due to the high level of industrialisation.But you can not save the pain of the political change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twofish.</p>
<p>I can not see how the Chinese government can buffering itself from a huge shock from the slowing of the investment/export.</p>
<p>The liquidity and the cash will go out on the window quickly, simply because the real cushion is the customer spending and the service sector.</p>
<p>I think that the future events in China will be very similar to the system change in eastern Europe.<br />
This will be the breaking point.Eastern Europe was unable to do this kind of change due to the high level of industrialisation.But you can not save the pain of the political change.</p>
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		<title>By: Twofish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twofish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happen to disagree with just about everything that Yasheng Huang has ever said about the Chinese economy.  First of all, we won&#039;t know for other year how well or badly the Chinese economy reacts to the recession, but my assertion is that it will do relatively well, because there is enough cash cushion in the economy to keep a crisis from happening, while people figure out what to do next.

I think part of the reason is that he comes from a management background and I come from a finance one, so what he sees as inefficiency, I tend to see as prudence.  Also Huang sees the 1980&#039;s as some sort of golden age, an idea I find flawed, since a lot of the reassertion of government control in the early 1990&#039;s happened when a lot of the credit institutions of the 1980&#039;s went broke.

In the case of Chinese wages, a lot of GDP growth hasn&#039;t been put into wages, but they have been put into 1) paying off the transition from central planning to the market 2) making sure that the banks and the corporations are very well capitalized so that they can withstand economic shock and 3) building up factories so that the economic won&#039;t collapse when everyone retires.  These three items are quite costly, and so by increasing GDP, you are able to pay for these things while keeping wage growth relatively high.  If you try to reduce production while keeping wages high, chances are that you will end up reducing risk reserves which makes the entire economy more vulnerable to economic shocks.

Also if supply is more than demand, the solution isn&#039;t to cut supply but boost demand.  You can do this in a number of ways, of which increasing consumption is only one of them.  You can boost investment or else boost government spending. 

Also the problem with land is that both in the US and in China, you end up with land being bought not at the &quot;fair market price&quot; but the &quot;bubble price.&quot;  If you try to make farmers rich by selling land to developers, you end up with the same thing happening as in the United States, that wealth comes from the banking system which means that you end up with a larger crisis when everything falls apart.  Also, if all else fails, peasants with land can go back to farming it.  Once the peasant no longer has title to agricultural land, it&#039;s not clear what happens to the peasant if everything falls apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happen to disagree with just about everything that Yasheng Huang has ever said about the Chinese economy.  First of all, we won&#8217;t know for other year how well or badly the Chinese economy reacts to the recession, but my assertion is that it will do relatively well, because there is enough cash cushion in the economy to keep a crisis from happening, while people figure out what to do next.</p>
<p>I think part of the reason is that he comes from a management background and I come from a finance one, so what he sees as inefficiency, I tend to see as prudence.  Also Huang sees the 1980&#8217;s as some sort of golden age, an idea I find flawed, since a lot of the reassertion of government control in the early 1990&#8217;s happened when a lot of the credit institutions of the 1980&#8217;s went broke.</p>
<p>In the case of Chinese wages, a lot of GDP growth hasn&#8217;t been put into wages, but they have been put into 1) paying off the transition from central planning to the market 2) making sure that the banks and the corporations are very well capitalized so that they can withstand economic shock and 3) building up factories so that the economic won&#8217;t collapse when everyone retires.  These three items are quite costly, and so by increasing GDP, you are able to pay for these things while keeping wage growth relatively high.  If you try to reduce production while keeping wages high, chances are that you will end up reducing risk reserves which makes the entire economy more vulnerable to economic shocks.</p>
<p>Also if supply is more than demand, the solution isn&#8217;t to cut supply but boost demand.  You can do this in a number of ways, of which increasing consumption is only one of them.  You can boost investment or else boost government spending. </p>
<p>Also the problem with land is that both in the US and in China, you end up with land being bought not at the &#8220;fair market price&#8221; but the &#8220;bubble price.&#8221;  If you try to make farmers rich by selling land to developers, you end up with the same thing happening as in the United States, that wealth comes from the banking system which means that you end up with a larger crisis when everything falls apart.  Also, if all else fails, peasants with land can go back to farming it.  Once the peasant no longer has title to agricultural land, it&#8217;s not clear what happens to the peasant if everything falls apart.</p>
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		<title>By: China in 2009 - the risks</title>
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		<dc:creator>China in 2009 - the risks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That’s what happened with US vs. UK in the 1920-1930s. Do you think the Chinese can commit the same mistake as Roosevelt did, as professor Michael Pettis, from Guanghua School of Management, Beijing University, recently [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That’s what happened with US vs. UK in the 1920-1930s. Do you think the Chinese can commit the same mistake as Roosevelt did, as professor Michael Pettis, from Guanghua School of Management, Beijing University, recently [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Herb Berkowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb Berkowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purported &quot;regional&quot; structures of the Federal Reserve System are now and have always been a facade to mask the fact that the Fed is run out of Washington and Wall Street.  Ron Paul has it right -- the Fed should be abolished.  While it pretends (although not at the moment) to fight inflation, it is now, and always has been, in the business of inflation.  A 1913 dollar is now worth a nickel.  All of our current imbalances are the legitimate offspring of this absurd system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purported &#8220;regional&#8221; structures of the Federal Reserve System are now and have always been a facade to mask the fact that the Fed is run out of Washington and Wall Street.  Ron Paul has it right &#8212; the Fed should be abolished.  While it pretends (although not at the moment) to fight inflation, it is now, and always has been, in the business of inflation.  A 1913 dollar is now worth a nickel.  All of our current imbalances are the legitimate offspring of this absurd system.</p>
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		<title>By: GloomBoom.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>GloomBoom.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China is in deep doo doo. Can you imagine central planning trying to deal with this kind of problem? I don&#039;t think the Feds will do much better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is in deep doo doo. Can you imagine central planning trying to deal with this kind of problem? I don&#8217;t think the Feds will do much better!</p>
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		<title>By: mxq</title>
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		<dc:creator>mxq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YASHENG HUANG is a professor of international management at the MIT Sloan School of Management and the author of &quot;Capitalism with Chinese Characteristics&quot; (Cambridge University Press, 2008)...he wrote in the WSJ on Sunday...succinct piece that cuts to the heart of China&#039;s problem and highlights quite a bit of what Prof. Pettis seems to be speaking to.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122988679995424611.html?mod=rss_opinion_mainu#printMode</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YASHENG HUANG is a professor of international management at the MIT Sloan School of Management and the author of &#8220;Capitalism with Chinese Characteristics&#8221; (Cambridge University Press, 2008)&#8230;he wrote in the WSJ on Sunday&#8230;succinct piece that cuts to the heart of China&#8217;s problem and highlights quite a bit of what Prof. Pettis seems to be speaking to.</p>
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